Make Money with Google Adsense or Clickbank?

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Adsense or Clickbank? Just started to blog that sharing tutorials on how to make money online and blogging tips. Should I apply for Google adsense or simply use clickbank as money generation method?
 

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You Can do both

But personally i have used clickbank and have seen great results with that

To be honest i have never employed Adsense because it does not provide flexibility and you are under google's hand

Having said that my friend and business partner has seen great results with Adsense

Its up to you to decide which one best fits for you ,Personally i would never use Adsense

Chyanit
 

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But personally i have used clickbank and have seen great results with that
What makes you succeeded with clickbank? Using paid ads or social networks?


To be honest i have never employed Adsense because it does not provide flexibility and you are under google's hand

Having said that my friend and business partner has seen great results with Adsense

Its up to you to decide which one best fits for you ,Personally i would never use Adsense
What is the flexibility are you mentiong? Google AdSense policies?

I suppose that more people are earning good with GA but they never reveal real revenue...so what you am afraid of using GA, if you join it, it can be a great source for income, right?
 

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Basically these days i have only been doing Paid Ads

GA-what i meant by flexibility is Since you r in MMO niche you will see all sorts of Ads like Binary trading etc etc and you have no control to remove them

and by using clickbank you can promote anything you like and everything you like

and with Adsense there is a change of your account getting banned if they feel any suspicious activity goining on

I know this does not happen to everyone ,but it can happen to some

Like i initially said yes there are people doing extremely good with GA

You need to decide what suits best for you

Chyanit
 

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AdSense is mandatory if you're gonna make money on the web. Why drive traffic and miss out on the ad rev share of 80% per click? People can argue why other ad networks and such are better but those other ad networks show terrible looking ads. Google is all high quality and people familiarize with the look of the ads. Visual recognition is huge for various marketing reasons.

Click bank would be a direct product you sell. Why not make money with AdSense on pages you promote CB products?

2 ways to successfully market a CB product.

1. Build a site/landing/splash page specific to the CB product you want to promote. Make sure the product is in demand and the gravity is low. Many may object but trust me, go with a low gravity. This site should have various incentives to join an email list, along with interactive features that interest your visitors. Run Bing Ads. Fill up a mailing list, build trust with those who submitted, then create an offer that they immediately want. Create the demand. Talk about problems the "product" relieves that your audience can relate to. Remember all products were created to solve some problem. Pin-point that problem and tap into your buyers emotions with content. You'll have them eating air out of the palm of your hand, because you say your palms are the fountain of youth.

2. Rank various Web 2.0s across the web with quick churn and burn methods. This works great with launch jacking. There are calendars when affiliate products are being launched. Look for leading edge products that address modern problems. Create Web 2.0s and videos all over the web reviewing the product. Abuse the hell out of your Web 2.0s. I use all SEO tools so I wouldn't recommend just one. I'd say get them all, or start buying some links and social signals. Figure out SEO and you'll forever have money. Unless Google flips the web into being a directory of authority sites, you're in the clear and can do this all day making money.
 

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Guess other people have better experiences than most people.

Adsense is a terrible way to earn, unless you don't wan to make much.

Why?

Because you have NO control over what ads show on your pages, besides colors. This usually leads to very low performing ads and very low click though. This means your missing out on sales and alot of potential revenue.

Maybe not in every case, or every marketer, but for most.

Not to mention they can close your account for no good reason, or even give you a reason, they keep money your owed and you usually have no recourse of getting back in. When is the last time you've heard of some one losing their clickbank account of JVzoo account? Only when they are doing bad things.

When you pick your own stuff to promote YOU have complete control over the ads. You pick the ads and YOU can test/rotate ads to get maximum click-thru rate, and maximum earnings.

So many better ways to earn online than adsense.

I think most people use it because it's so quick and easy. Kind of lazy really.

As always, just my opinions. :)
 

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I couldn't agree more. Unless the sole purpose of your site is information
ONLY, and you do not plan on doing any other type of promoting (affiliate
offers, your own products, etc.), then I really see no use for Adsense.

A few years back, I was the webmaster for a local community website.
The site received hundreds of thousands of hits daily. EVERYTHING that
was related to the city was tied into this site, so, it was very busy.

I had placed Adsense on the site and everything was fine for about 6
months. My client received checks well in excess of 5 figures several
times and then all of a sudden, G decided to shut our account down.

The mayor of the town the site was for even tried to contact Google.
After a few weeks, he realized it was a waste of his time and energy.
He either received NO response at all, or the standard "form" response.

In any case, if you are trying to make some serious money, there are
many many many other ways to make much more serious cash while
maintaining FULL control over what type of ads appear on your site.

If your site becomes popular enough to warrant a nice size check from
Adsense, then why wouldn't you consider selling ad space on your site
if you're not wanting to go the typical route of affiliate banners/links?

Now, before I get bombarded with "Adsense Rules" replies, LOL, I agree
that Adsense does work for SOME, however, if you're a serious marketer
of any sort (affiliate, internet, etc...) then, again, there are so many other
avenues, with much more control, in your favor, that you could and should
pursue.
 

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First off, and it's kinda sad a mod is commenting nonsense like this.

Is it true that Google has banned large accounts in the past? ABSOLUTELY

But we learn from those people's mistakes. I'm not sure what happened in the very elaborate story above with the account that was making "5 figures" (lol), but if the account was making that much and there was no illegitimate traffic, you should have contacted an attorney.

Also, if you were sending a large amount of social traffic then that would be a definite shutdown. Which again you should contact an attorney if that happened.

The problem with social traffic is, the source is unknown in analytics a lot of the time, appearing to be fake bot traffic.

Also registering the website as a business and obtaining a generic LLC (if you're making 5 figures) is completely necessary. Heck, if your account makes more than $4k a month you should register it. If you didn't do this, then it's your own fault that account was locked.

Those who fail to plan, plan to fail.
 

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Hey Eric, I'm sorry you feel this way, I thought everyone was entitled to their own opinions, not just
"globalmods". Guess I was wrong, huh?

Regardless of that, I am not exactly sure what all the talk about registering the business is about as this
was a site that was developed for a city/town. I am 1,000% certain all the legalities were in place.

Furthermore, whether THEY chose to contact an attorney or not, was solely up to them. I was merely their
webmaster, not their legal counsel or advisor.
 

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My issue was more with the fact that you were sorta bashing the highest paying ad network there is. It's also a bit hard to believe that a "city/town" site was receiving enough traffic to make 5 figures in adsense clicks, unless it was a major metropolis.That's neither here nor there.

The fact that you are publicly giving a bias opinion against the highest paying ad network and instructing to avoid it, is a bit puzzling. I've never had a problem with AdSense. We've had blogs that have made $10k in one day and things got a little crazy but situations were easily resolved.

the overall message you and the other fella provided was "Shoot yourself in the foot by completely missing out on AdSense revenues, because I and other people have had bad experiences."

You recommended "other avenues". What are those other avenues? Affiliate, CPA, what? And if you're doing affiliate stuff and CPA, why shouldn't you utilize Google as well?

You're gonna miss out on rev because things might go wrong? Well then every newbie should just give up on IM if thats the case.

Or you're saying that there are other ad networks that are paying higher than 80% of the click? Do these ad networks have a solid remarketing program like Google?
 

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Adsense or Clickbank? Just started to blog that sharing tutorials on how to make money online and blogging tips. Should I apply for Google adsense or simply use clickbank as money generation method?
Affiliate promotions pay more (based on volume of traffic) than adsense does. You also shouldn't put adsense on the same pages you're doing affiliate promotions. It sends traffic away from your site. The goal, with affiliate promotions, is to keep the visitor on there as long as possible (to either sign up to your e-mail list - should have one so you can promote to them down the road) or buy something. You also shouldn't go into the "make money online" niche until you've actually made money in a niche besides that one. That way, you'll know what a quality program is supposed to teach people.

Joey
 

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If i would starting out i would go with click bank it's much easier for me ;-) and you get paid much higher commissions for adsense you need to get a loot of views and clicks when on clickbank you just get sale and thats it ..
 

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My post was not meant to bash. Guessing I am the "other fellow". You can say my name you won't hurt my feelings. It is a "discussion" forum after all. :)

Just my experience and what I've seen others experience. I stand by what I said.

Saying they are the highest paying network out there is great, it really is, but if the ads THEY serve, that you have NO control over, do not get crap for clicks, being the highest paying doesn't mean much to the affiliate. Doesn't put as much money in their pocket. Am I missing something?

I am not saying I am a pro at Adsense, far from it. But, how much can be done to improve clicks to a respectable level? Last I remember, there were so many restrictions as to ad placement. Sure don't want to break the TOS.

And let's be totally honest here... for those who have experience with the network, more so those who have had great success, will have to agree, that it takes strong traffic skills and SEO skills to achieve great success. Such as generating that high paying keywords traffic.

For a newbie, or those struggling, it is probably not going to be the big pay day. And I've made way more with regular affiliate programs, such as percentage, with much less traffic.

Maybe I am way off base. Could be I did it all wrong. If so, some one please open a new thread, explaining how we can make big money with Adsense. I am always open to learning. Always. :) Or, at least show how it is possible to get high click through rates without breaking TOS.

And frankly the other thing that bugs me about the network is the way they can shut down accounts with little to no reasoning. That's not right. It's the same type of thing Pay Pal got in trouble for. Just heard they settled a case action suit for similar practices. Well, they said it was cheaper to settle than fight, BUT, it seems they are going to be doing a much better job handling "problems" with accounts. That's a good thing. Maybe G will get a slap to change. They should.

Just my opinions :)
 

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Google adsense is really not as lucrative as it used to be and the fact that they are now strict on a lot of levels almost makes it impossible to deal with them
 
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