Namecheap and error 508's

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I have used namecheap for a very long time, but with the recent website I started working on, I constant get 508 errors. Or, in the case of the attachment, the html doesn't load at all. They tell me to turn things off remove things, etc. The thing is, it is mostly just text, very few images....Google shows a downtime of %41 with error 500's, I have used siteground also in the past, but their CS was a little hard to talk to, does anyone have any decent shared hosting recommendation? Joomla CMS knowledge preferred.

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A 508 error means you have reached or exceeded your available resources.

Even if the page that is generating the error is only text, remember that all the sites/pages in your account share the same resources.

Joomla is rather resource intensive, but you can still run a popular joomla site on a quality shared hosting account as long as you don't have too many plugins and the site is relatively optimised.
 

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Thanks for the info, could you elaborate a little more on what might be a quality shared webhost? I used Rochen for dedicated and imountain for cloud hosting awhile back, but man those costs add up so fast. ANother approach I thought about was mirrioring every category on the website onto a subdomain, with the subdomain actually being the exact main website, but they would all be on different servers and ip addresses in order to spread the load times. Does that sound like a good idea? like blog.denverdonate / news.denverdonate / pictures.denverdonate ---- all on seperate hosting, but it would be transparent to the end user.
 

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Are you considering do a static HTML site that way, or a Joomla site?
If HTML, then you could. If Joomla. I absolutely would not recommend that!

Joomla and other dynamic websites use a database to store the content in. If you split the site up, you will have multiple hosting account serving different parts of the site, but all of them will have to 'talk' to the database on one of the hosting account. This would add lots of latency to your application and really spell disaster in the long (or short) run!

Check the offers section here on WMS. There are plenty of quality hosts right here that would be more then happy to work with you.

If you want to try testing your application on a different server to see if it makes a difference, let me know, I'd be glad to help
 

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well

I was under the impression (though I admit my ignorance with this issue and looking at your signature I think you know what you are talking about) that with the database the fields allowed for certain types of cacheing that makes load times faster? How would a non-CMS not like wordpress, drupal, or joomla be able to be updated quickly though? Also, you might be able to answer this, maybe this explains some of my load time issues. I noticed they might be occouring when my incoming feeds start to populate the database when my cronjob initializes them?
 

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Yes and no.

There are plugins that you can use to cache certain content, but typically this is still the static content only. If there is even the slightest change since the last time it was viewed, it will not be served from cache and must be re-served. Also, dynamic content must be compiled before there is even a chance of being served from cache.

Visit website >> Server finds page >> Checks database to see what is on the page >> Checks to see if result is the same as what is in cache
If yes, it serves the page from cache
If no, it re-compiles the page

Caching helps, but dynamic content still causes a performance hit. If this step (Server finds page >> Checks database to see what is on the page) happens on 2 different server, then your adding latency in the middle which will slow down your site.

Cloudflare has a feature called RailGun which will take the caching a step further by compressing and caching dynamic, and requesting only the changes from the origin server, but the page still has to be compiled.

The first thing I would recommend is checking your site on GTMetrix. This will give you an idea of what you can do to optimize it. Optimizing your site, decreases the server resources necessary to server your site, and may even solve your problem.
 

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I'm not too familiar with Joomla, but there should be some options for a cache plugin/extension.
A quick Google turned up both JotCache and CacheControl.
Choose one only. Set it up, and let it do its magic. It will help reduce your load.

Additionally, adding a CDN will help as well. CloudFlare is popular - they have their own plugin for Joomla, too.

Finally, in your cPanel hit "Optimize Website" (image here) and select "Compress All Content" (image here).

It all should help with load (both website loading time and resources your website uses). CloudFlare's free option is great and is suitable for most people.

Use all of these in conjunction by the way. I use a similar setup for one of my Wordpress websites and it loads in under 1 second (and it uses very little resources). You will need to do some fine-tuning in order to get the most out of the caching plugin, so search Google or WMS for some help on that bit.
 
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